Curse

MelechRic · May 25, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Currently I'm replaying Sunjiang District to get Equinox for my Ranger. I've done it three times and still no Ranger Construct at the end. I had the same experience capturing Soul Bind for my Necromancer. (4th try was the charm.)

I think placing elites on randomly spawned boss monsters in a mission is really poor design. It's especially poor in this mission because you need to fight through the entire thing just to find out if the boss will spawn.

In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.

/rant

kurath · May 25, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

The explorable area of Sunjiang district has a gate which opens up after completion of the mission. This area will spawn all 6 core class constructs. The ranger construct is the first one. Walk to the south of the area from Zin Ku Corridor towards Pongmei valley then turn west. You will run into a gate into the mission area where the constructs will be. The ritualist construct spawns outside unwaking waters (kurzick) and the assassin construct outside unwaking waters (luxon).

MelechRic · May 25, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

^^ Thanks so much. I guess I misread the guild wiki entry. It does say Sunjiang District, but I thought it meant the mission and not the explorable area.

Silly me.

lennymon · May 25, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Actually they wont always spawn in prophesies as I've discovered trying to cap stupid restore condition the last 5 times...

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

Currently I'm replaying Sunjiang District to get Equinox for my Ranger. I've done it three times and still no Ranger Construct at the end. I had the same experience capturing Soul Bind for my Necromancer. (4th try was the charm.)

I think placing elites on randomly spawned boss monsters in a mission is really poor design. It's especially poor in this mission because you need to fight through the entire thing just to find out if the boss will spawn.

In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.

/rant

and tytyty for that thing on the sunjiang district exploreable... I actually went and killed Gita in Boreas seabed mission so I wouldnt need to redo that mission 4 times to get life sheath.

audra · May 25, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.

That's not true. And quite a few were much harder to get to than the average Factions elite, as well. Ether Prodigy anyone?

LiQuId StEeL · May 25, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

:O there IS an exporable!? YES! Oh man, I was dreading having to cap there another 6 times.

remmeh · May 26, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

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Originally Posted by audra

That's not true. And quite a few were much harder to get to than the average Factions elite, as well. Ether Prodigy anyone?

ether prodigy and shield of deflection

but for me, the kicker will always be incendiary arrows with a bad group :\

dargon · May 26, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

or a good group, that mob sucked

Raptox · May 26, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Oh sweet gentle Jesus...

THANK YOU, OP and answerer, for this thread. This was bothering me to no end.

Y.T. · May 26, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

there are 6 bosses total, but if u're doing the mis, u can kill only 4 at the wery end, and u're not going to have enough time for any skillcaps from the last boss u kill. however u can explore this area AFTER u beat this mis and all 6 bosses will spawn near the portals. for some reasons melee henchy werent able to reach monk construct, prolly a minor bug, but u can nuke him and cap his elite anyway.

MelechRic · May 26, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by audra

That's not true. And quite a few were much harder to get to than the average Factions elite, as well. Ether Prodigy anyone?

Well I guess my statement was based on personal experience. I use the elite map that was compiled for prophecies some time ago. I've never missed an elite on any of the missions/areas where the elite was indicated. I'd love to know some examples of where certain elites don't always spawn. (Just for reference of course.)

As for Ether Prodigy...

http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/AllRingBreeze.JPG

Seems that it's potentially in three spots. A bit of a slog, but if you search all three spots you're guaranteed to get it.

For me Incendiary Arrows was a toughie to get on my ranger. Eventually I figured out that Barrage + Winter did the trick.

However, my least favorite skill cap has to be Feast of Corruption. Slogging all the way to Dreadnought's Drift through Snake Dance is so unpleasant.

MelechRic · May 26, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by lennymon

Actually they wont always spawn in prophesies as I've discovered trying to cap stupid restore condition the last 5 times...

Did you check all four locations on this map?

http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/...adonSpider.JPG

I know that I captured this easily when using my monk. Maybe I was just lucky.

SnipiousMax · May 26, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by remmeh

...the kicker will always be incendiary arrows with a bad group....

I did that one with henchies....but it took me a few tries.

MelechRic · May 26, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Deleted...

Stupid database error... double posting... *grumbles to himself*

Avarre · May 27, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

Did you check all four locations on this map?

http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/...adonSpider.JPG

I know that I captured this easily when using my monk. Maybe I was just lucky.

You were. The dryder bosses, like quite a few bosses, have a chance to simply not spawn at all. It's not a 100% spawn of a boss in some areas, for example Mursaat will always spawn in Abbadon but the drake bosses on perdition (virulence, bulls charge, ele attune...) tend not to appear (especially when capping).

I did Sunjiang a total of 14 times to cap all the skills in mission... so meh at 3 attempts

MelechRic · May 27, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

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Originally Posted by Avarre

I did Sunjiang a total of 14 times to cap all the skills in mission... so meh at 3 attempts

Well it was actually 8 when I count my necro and ranger together. I also think my original thought still stands: random placement is fine, but random spawns are not when it comes to boss monsters and skill capping.

personaljihad · May 27, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

I totally forgot about the explorable area, THANKS!

dargon · May 27, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

Well I guess my statement was based on personal experience. I use the elite map that was compiled for prophecies some time ago. I've never missed an elite on any of the missions/areas where the elite was indicated. I'd love to know some examples of where certain elites don't always spawn. (Just for reference of course.)

Obsidian Flesh and Quickshot, only one of those two bosses will ever load at a time outside Emberlight Camp on Perdition Rock.

Francis Crawford · May 27, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by dargon

Obsidian Flesh and Quickshot, only one of those two bosses will ever load at a time outside Emberlight Camp on Perdition Rock.

Exactly. The Coldstone siblings never hang out together.

Maybe there's just one and s/he's a cross-dresser.

linh · May 28, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Some other annoy elite skill caps in tyria are Earth Shaker and Healing Hands. That ettin boss with HH only spawn in few places, but I had to rezone near 10 times to get him spawn -_-